I don’t remember to hear “yn” in the sentence but might very well be. If I’ll remember tomorrow I’ll listen to this part once again.
And, yes, I’m familiar with “Martha was getting tired” structure in English and in the context of the whole text at that part it’s very logical.
It helps. Thank you.
Well, for the record, I don’t tend to literally translate while listening but this structure just caught my ears and that’s why I tried to translate it. Well, my translation was prety literall actually and I like @aran’s much more and, of course, this one is also correct one. Sometimes my brains just get around something instead of going straight into the middle of the thingy …
Does anyone know whether there’s a method for listing all the users who are watching a particular thread, please? It would be really useful for me to be able to do this, so that I can check how many of our group in Liverpool will get automatic emails about notices we post on our thread - and therefore I can deduce by elimination how many other people will need to be told by different means that our meeting next week is in the pub, not the chapel!
On short: if you go to the first post of particular thread, you can see all members who posted in the thread, but, who else is watching the thread but not posting, I believe you can not list. I believe @Kinetic would be able to say some more about this since he works with this software daily on techincal basis. I don’t have the access to “behind the scene” stuff so this is as unknown area for me as it’s for you.
Thank you for allerting me to this anyway @margaretnock
@margaretnock & @tatjana: Thanks for your replies. It looks to me as if the answer must be “not at the moment”. A query in the database that powers the web site should be able to provide a list of people watching a thread in just a fraction of a second, but if such a facility had been built into the site then I expect you would have known about it already.
@Kinetic: If you are keeping a wish list of useful features to add to the site at some time in the future, here’s a suggestion for one!
The problem here is that we use a third party system for the forum (because developing this kind of stuff in-house is out of reach for a one person tech team) - so while it’s not impossible for us to make changes to the code, it does rather open up some extra cans of worms…
Yah, including financial one as I’ve checked with the provider of the software and saw it’s not offered for free at all.
As I see, @mikefarnworth you are not unfamiliar with tech stuff, so you probably know that payed services relay on statistics available to the user among all the rest features, when they make paying plans (I’ve encounterred this with quite many services I use (or I used in the past)). So I understand quite well how this part of matters works (fortunately or unfortunately for me - who knows …).
Mike, could you do something at your end? If you have a list of folk who ‘need to know’, could you ask them to click on for the message you send? Then if you click on the bit where it says number of likes, later, you will get a list of those who have clicked, not just the number. Isn’t that what you want?
Your last message in this thread currently has 3 likes, one of which was me, experimenting. Try clicking on that!
The software will not tell me who the ‘likes’ are, but it tells the originator of the message!
Diolch! For the ‘like’, that is!!!
Oh, @aran, while I’m on, I agree with what you said to @steve_2 about speaking using a smaller vocabulary than listening or reading. In French, I became adept at wording things to get over my meaning when I’d forgotten half the words I needed!
But, I have terrible trouble with the past tenses in Welsh. If I think about it and listen properly I can tell when to use ‘wedi’ but for '‘nes’i’, ‘on’i’ and the actual verb itself, I am hopeless! If I used the wrong past tense, would people still catch on?
Any hints for a bad listener with poor concentration as to how to get them right?
@henddraig Thanks for taking time to suggest this, which is indeed a good idea in principle. What I was actually looking for, however, was something completely automatic and therefore proof against misoperation or forgetfulness. If you ask people to do something, such as to watch the forum, not all of them remember to do it. That’s why I was interested in knowing who would be emailed automatically - and therefore by elimination knowing who needed encouragement to configure their SSiW accounts differently. As soon as everyone in our group is set to receive notifications automatically when something is posted on our thread there will be no need to ask people to remember to check.
I can see that the SSiW forum is based on Discourse, an open source forum and mailing list software suite, which in turn relies on PostgreSQL as its database engine. The database must contain all the information necessary to supply a list of the users who watch a particular thread, therefore it is possible in theory for Discourse to offer a feature which enables the originator of the thread to see this list. Software packages like this are crammed with useful features, but in this case the particular feature I had in mind hasn’t yet been coded. Perhaps it will be some day, when the developers of Discourse have dealt with more pressing issues. It’s a fairly new software project, so there’s plenty of evolution yet to happen to it.
In the mean time, I think I’ll try a low-tech approach to our immediate issue in Liverpool of moving venue for the bank holiday: a cardboard sign on the door saying dyn ni wedi mynd i’r dafarn. That should do the trick!
They did when I have spoken many times inventing just something unexistable … ummm … well … at least it seamed they catch on with what I’m saying (trying to say at least …)
Mike, I think I see a problem. I checked your thread because of the mention of Bethel, but am not and never will be a Group member unless I have a miracle cure and move to Gogledd Cymru, both very unlikely! Others may check your thread for all sorts of reasons, so a list would include folk who looked once and never again. You want, really, a way of getting all your folk on the Forum and getting them tagged as ‘watching’ your thread!
That’s exactly what I am trying to achieve. I’ve shown people how to monitor the thread automatically and now I’m trying to see who has managed to do it and who has not. Some are more confident with IT than others, of course.
I wasn’t looking for a list of who had viewed the thread, because that would indeed include casual visitors, I was looking instead for a list of those who had set the thread to “watching” rather than to “tracking”, “normal”, or “muted”. This information must exist in the database, but it requires programming work to make it visible. It will be a useful feature if it’s ever implemented, but that’s a job for the Discourse developers rather than SSiW. If I wasn’t so busy trying to improve my Welsh I might almost be tempted to write the code myself!
I can see that apart from the technical aspect, there may also be privacy issues. e.g. Do I really want the world in general to know which threads I’m following? (Probably, personally, in this case, I don’t really care, but some people might, especially in other kinds of forums that Discourse might be used for).
for the message you send? Then if you click on the bit where it says number of likes, later, you will get a list of those who have clicked, not just the number. Isn’t that what you want?