Diolch yn fawr iawn.
This is fantastic news
Seriously.
The fact that you got some new things right shows that consolidation HAS been happening for you. The fact that you got some āwrongā that youād previously got ārightā isnāt important - all thatās happening there is that youāre measuring such tiny details, the smallest of shifts means that you count it as wrong.
Youāre measuring yourself the wrong way, Tatjana - you obviously went into this repeat expecting/hoping that you would magically get much, much more right - it doesnāt work like that.
Your experiences here are normal. You are not doing badly. Youāre just measuring yourself badly.
The next step is easy.
You leave 24 and 25 for a month now - make a note in your diary - and in the meantime, you start Course 3.
Yes, I know everything youāre going to say about that! But nonetheless, itās what you do next. As it happens, I think you might find Course 3 a bit of a breather - as long as you can accept the fact that it deals with things that you know lots of different ways to say, so your āget it RIGHTā measurements will continue to be low. For a lot of people, Course 3 is boring, because itās the most traditional piece of writing I did, working its way through the short forms of the verb - but I think you might find the process itself quite easy.
And once youāve finished your first run through Course 3, Iāve got something else in mind for you
Those two sentences radiates such big āhappynessā and chear that one just canāt be equanimous about this. Not that other people on here donāt manage to do that, but you really can push me forward when needed so here we go on ā¦ HAHA
Iād be the least honest person of the world if Iād say that this is not true. Yes thatās how it goes ā¦ pure math - or itās right or itās wrong catching myself sometimes that when I did mark answer as right I went back and marked it wrong as it wasnāt put from me the way I expected - the right way.
yah ā¦
I did them only once (was not in the working mood on Monday I admit). So does it mean I donāt neccessarilly need to do them one more time and then go on?
SURPRISE!!! Iām gonna say nothing (for a change) .
Curiousity is always the engine which (besides all lift ups from you and members here) can push one further so right now Iām curious. I imagine Course 3 as kind of compatible with the first part of Level 1 in terms of short verbs and stuff so since I did Level 1 till the Challenge 15, this might (hopefully) come to my aid. (or am I mistaken?)
O_o ā¦ this sounds scarry ā¦ ā¦
Been there, done that, and i apologise to any people that have got bored waiting for me to say something about the dog i donāt have. skype is like many things, wonderful but maybe it needs to be avoided at times.
We wonāt be chatting, You will have lots to say, mistakes or not understanding will be of no importance, and if you donāt find it useful you will be free to tell all on here.
The only reason i say any of this is because i sense you wish to improve as much as me.
Cheers J.P.
Nope, once is fine. Youād almost certainly see some changes if you did a quick repeat, but thereās no need to - put a date in your diary to repeat them in four weeks, and get on with Course 3ā¦
Marked as today - itās 13th and my husband says itās lucky number so it must be it.
On the more sirious note: Iāll start with Course 3 today doing as I did until now - lesson per day (as I said curiousity is engine which pushes further so right now Iām curious what still lays ahead ā¦ )
Great advice Margaretš
1st week of Course 3
Iāll put pure statistic here and nothing more.
L1=17%
L2=31%
L3=13%
L4=9%
L5=22%
L6=8%
L7=7%
L1-7=15%
Iāll say only this yet that I have not the slidest clue what Iām learning at all and I donāt even know where Iāve found those above 10 percentages. (It must be Iāve cheated and I donāt even know that) ā¦
@Tatjana, Iām just curiousā¦how are you actually determining your statistics? Do you mark yourself as you are doing the lesson? I was thinking that If I tried to do that, I would be very distracted by the evaluation process and wouldnāt be able to have my full attention on the lesson (and therefore wouldnāt learn well). I think the only way I could accurately evaluate myself would be to have a voice recorder running while I did the lesson. Then I would listen to the recording afterward to mark ārightā and āwrongā. I am just wondering what your āprocessā isā¦
Iāve recorded first two lessons of Course 1 then I went strait into statistics while learning.
Well set Excell table with well prepared formulas for counting, conditional formating and calculating percentage and youāre set. Then, when you set all those things you only have to press whatever you determine is mark for right and wrong.
In my case mark for right is C (which colors green when pressed) and F for false (which colors red when pressed). You donāt count anything, you just look at the result at the end. I usually have fingers set to those two letters (since I can blind typinng) usually having eyes closed so that I can only listen and not look what appears on the table. I can focus to the lesson very well, not being (too) distracted.
In my case the thing is I donāt cope with those short forms anymore. For majority of you theyāre way more simple to form sentences with (as much as I could establish) for me the whole thing became WAY harder now. I tend to say long forms for things but even those donāt appear right anymore and all my vocabulary went somewhere in the background and it seams I canāt dig it out anymore.
As much as I could establish I only remember basic things from early lessons of Course 1 all the rest (despite I did the whole Course 2 too, those 7 lessons of Course 3, whole Course 1 vocabulary units and 15 Challenges of Level 1 + I listen to listening practices when Iām in position of doing this) is like a blur. Most of the things I canāt (donāt) remeber anymore and when repetition in some Lesson occurs itās usually like something new at first to me. If thereās more sentences then I might remember that they were taught in some lesson but I constantly fail to form them especially those shortened ones. They always appear to me like almost the whole sentence would be missing and they donāt sound right to me at all.
Iām sorry, this is not going hand in hand with SSi aproach, but I find myself in the position when I seam to being able to produce much less with learning those shortened things then I was able after doing just Course 1 where there were none (yet).
But since you all are doing (majority of you) according to your writings on the forum) EXTREAMLY WELL (Iām almost jelous about that to be honest) this is ONLY ME AGAIN who obviously is not capable of going with the flow.
No matter what, the whole SSi way is brilliant. Iām the one who isnāt. This for Iām anticipated to see some languages Iāve already learnt here so I can establish for sure whatās actually wrong with me. If I canāt re-learn even those, then I really donāt belong here and Iāll go away to make room for more new, way more positive learners.
Wow, high tech! Iād have a pad of paper and a pencil Thanks for explaining that to me.
I canāt comment about short forms, since the only one Iāve seen so far is sa/so in Course 2 Lesson 0. Iām only on Lesson 1 now, because the last two weeks have been very busy. I at least do some kind of listening practice every day, but I donāt think Iāll be able to get back to lessons seriously until next week.
Try not to get discouraged, keep to Aranās plan, and then we will see what he has in mind next. His previous post sounds like he has something up his sleeveā¦
Yes, he always has. When I already think heād lost his hope he says something like āI already have something else on my mind.ā
Sometimes I wonder whos limits I push more - my, @aranās or those of all of you who might all loose patience with me at one point ā¦ However I canāt help myself ā¦
Just a thoughtā¦ How are you marking your answers? I was finding it difficult to get 80%of the questions ātotallyā right as even if I got the right words/tense etc I would inevitably slip up on a mutation for example. Then I would get fed up with going over the lesson again and again. So I decided that if I got 80%of an individual sentence right that was good enough and I could learn from what Iestyn said and carry on and enjoy the course, occasionally dipping back into a lesson as and when I wanted to.
I am sure that those doing the high intensity method cannot really be getting 80% right first time especially if not using the pause button!
Hope this helps but please ignore if not especially if Aran doesnāt approve!
Oh, dear @AnneEvans! If Iād have 80 % of the sentence correct it would be enough for me but these days most of the time itās 0 % right because I say (if I say them at all) totally wrong. I really struggle to the data that Lesson 2 was even 31 % correct. But yes, I tend to mark them wrong if they arenāt correct but mostly because itās not the whole sentence spoken from me at all but just 1/4 of it and even that 1/4 is more then 1/2 wrong.
Those short forms are so similar one ot another that I canāt devide them anymore to what they actually mean.
Iām sticking to the @aranās plan though - Lesson a day going on without repetition, no pause button (well that last wasnāt exactly his instruction or idea). Even if Iād use pause button there would be no better. Iād probably do tha lesson for several hours using it because remembering difficulties probably wouldnāt vanish though.
Sounds as if you are pretty much doing the high intensity method then so you are braver than I am ! Well done.
This keeps me going and @aran obviously knows this. If I wouldnāt do this way, I might very well not be here anymore. And this has nothing to do with courage, believe me.
These numbers are great, Tatjana, no problem at all.
Do you remember me saying that you might find Course 3 a bit of a breather IF you could accept that āit deals with things that you know lots of different ways to say, so your āget it RIGHTā measurements will continue to be lowāā¦??
When you let yourself feel bad about your percentages, thatās the trap youāre falling into. Those percentages, for Course 3, are ABSOLUTELY FINE.
So, keep on going, keep on giving your brain the exposure you need, and when youāve done your first run through Course 3, weāll talk about the next stage of the planā¦
I remember, @aran, but I actually am not iritated with percentage, but with the fact that I canāt even form the beginning of the sentence. I all of a sudden CAN NOT remember even things (ways to say things) I should know. This is what Iām irritated with.
If I take only percentage into considderation, then some particular lessons aare really good (31 %, 17 % ā¦).
It also bothers me not noticing the difference inbetween shortenings. Theyāre all the same to me ā¦ Iāll have to look for all into written guide (didnāt do that yet) to picture the differences and bond them with the meaning and āaudioā of all.
Well, if you deal with your irritation - because we know that you get irritated about things which arenāt actually a problem in the learning process - you will find it all much easier and much less stressful.
So you have a choice - you can listen to me telling you that this is not a problem and that you are doing fine, and feel happier - or you can choose to ignore me, and carry on kicking yourself. Itās up to youā¦
Itās not about feeling but rather about understanding things. ā¦
Percentages are not important anymore ā¦