Confused about bod

I’m nearing the end of level 1 of SSiW and am confused about bod in the middle of a sentence. For example: ‘it’s important to remember that I’ll see you there’ is given as mae’n bwysig cofio y (?) wela i chdi yno, but ‘some people think that it’s important’ is mae rhai pobl yn meddwl vod o’n bwysig. How do you know when to use ‘vod’ as ‘that’? Any help would be gratefully received, thank you.

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Hi @karenturner

That is a good question…

If the second half of the sentence would normally use the present tense (eg if it was a sentence on its own) then ‘bod’ (or fod) is used which does the job of both ‘that’ and providing the tense.

If the second half of the sentence uses another tense eg the future tense or conditional tense - then ‘y’ or ‘yr’ is usually used instead, as a straight translation of the English word ‘that’ (which has no tense implications).

Rich :slight_smile:

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Aha. That’s really helpful, thank you Rich.

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It depends on the person you are using ‘bod’ with. If it is with ‘o/e’ (ie he) then you use ‘fod’ instead of ‘bod’, because ‘b’ takes a soft mutation to be ‘f’. Incidentally there is no letter ‘v’ in Welsh but ‘f’ sounds like ‘v’, and ‘ff’ sounds like ‘f’. I know this because I also take Welsh lessons. However the SSIW way of learning is like that of a child. You hear things and repeat them often enough that you just know what to say. This will not help you to write fully in Welsh however, if this is what you want to learn to do. I prefer ton use SSIW as a tool to greater fluency while also taking formal lessons. It is personal choice. Just keep practising and it will come is all I can advise.

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Thanks very much indeed, Susan, that’s helpful. I do know there’s no ‘v’ in Welsh, I just seem to consistently mistype v for f. Initially I’d like to be able to speak Welsh but at some point will also need to be able to write it so will look at alternative learning methods. I’ve also been reading books written for learners to get a feel for the written language and to help increase my vocabulary. Thanks for taking the time to respond.

Hi Karen, I learned how to write in English, largely by reading a lot. So, in my opinion you are laying the best foundations by reading many and various texts. Make sure however that they are written in the same type of Welsh as you are learning ie. North or South etc. If you want a book to tell you about the intricacies of grammar in a readable way, I suggest getting a copy of ‘Y Cyfeiriadur’ by Tony Welsh, who was himself an adult Welsh learner who became fluent. It is £7.99 from LULU publishers online. Plus postage. My husband loves it. I dip in now and again.

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Thanks very much for the encouragement and for the recommendation :slight_smile: Would that be Tony Ellis…? That’s what seems to be coming up in searches. I’ll have another look…

PS I have reference books by Gareth King and find them very helpful (basic and intermediate Welsh)

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On the subject of Bod, sometimes bo’fi sounds like ‘bo’thee’ and other times more like ‘bo’vee.’ I assume the latter is correct?

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Yes, it’ll be a ‘vee’. I find that the f and dd sounds are often very similar in the challenges.

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Thank you :+1: