Tiny questions with quick answers - continuing thread

There’s no clear dividing north/south line - words are slippery things - and S4C has made it increasingly common for words to climb up from the south or slip down from the north - nothing at all uncommon in hearing someone in the north say ‘nawr’ on a moderately random occasional basis, although ‘rwan’ would definitely be more common…

I had a look through the subtitles, and I could only spot one “nawr” at about 14 minutes, and that was the friend of the young man (John’s son) in the garage. Philip’s wife is Alwena* (lots of hair - keeps Philip in order). According to the subtitles, there were 4 "rŵan"s to that one “nawr”. Normally, I’d have expected more. However, I noticed some bits of dialogue weren’t making it into the subtitles, so that might have included the “nawr” that you heard.

*This is what Alwena does when she manages to escape from the shop:

(as Rhiannon Roberts in Byw Celwydd. She can second my amendment, any time she likes… :slight_smile: )

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To @mikeellwood: Yes,I did realise she had been the stalwart of Plaid in that!! Thanks for all your work! I could have sworn it was her I heard say ‘nawr’ but I am not famous for my memory and I didn’t take notes!! However, thanks @aran and I do realise that S4C may actually use actors from all parts of the country in all productions! I don’t think they are as bad as the BBC who had someone with a very southern accent playing a born-and-bred gog in one series set in north Wales!! What matters really is that anyone saying ‘nawr’ yn y gogledd will be perfectly understood! (I’m not so sure of ‘rwan’ yn y de!!!). {I had never knowingly met it until SSiW!]
Added: to @aran I want to thank you for the humour in the Challenges as well as the original lessons. Whenever I am feeling that nothing will enter my brain and actually stay there and that I’ll never remember what I am supposed to be rendering into Cymraeg, I am presented with a sentence along the lines of, “The old woman could not remember what she was going to say!” or “The old woman is trying to remember how to say what she wanted to say!” At ths point, I collapse into giggles and cannot say anything at all!! A lovely way of learning!

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Helo bawb!

I have a little thing I want to clarify!!

Mi fedra i - I can
could you also just say ‘Fedra i…’ or would it be ‘Medra i…’

Diolch yn fawr!!! :slight_smile:

You can definitely say “fedra i”.

I’m not sure about “medra i” to be honest. Doesn’t sound quite right, but maybe I have been brainwashed by SSiW… :smile:

I’m confident I’ve heard “fedra i” in level one. But not 100% sure.

You can say ‘medra i’, but it may sound more natural to say ‘fedra i’ - which is just like ‘mi fedra i’ but dropping the ‘mi’. :wink:

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I think you say “medra i” after certain things … “if I can” = “os medra i”

Emphasis on “I think”, pinch of salt time.

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Hey guys I’m new to the forum and was wondering if anyone could give me some tips on using it… Thanks :blush:

Don’t be shy!! Croeso!! See if there is a subject that interests you! “What’s outside” hooked me in! If you have a question e.g. not sure what @aran or @Iestyn said, or meaning of what you heard on TV try hitting the magnifying glass logo and type in a word or phrase to see if it has been mentioned before. Look at FAQ.s and, when in doubt, ask @tatjana who is the nicest person in the world, has infinite patience with idiots like me, lives in Slovenia and likes rugby! She is a techno wizz!!
p.s. where are you? There is a thread for being put on the map and if you are outside Wales, there is a petition for those who want S4C to carry on its good work!!

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Ayayay … @henddraig:slight_smile:

Really useful ‘How to’ stuff and other great posts is the topic where you can get every single useful information about this forum, Growth Club and some additional useful stuff so go ahead and read this first.

@CatrinLliarJones are you maybe so kind and globally pin this “Really useful stuff” topic. It is only pinned but not globally pinned what would be super useful for each member of every section of this forum. Thank you in advance.

And, of course, a very warm welcome to the forum @marie_ondabeat.

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Aaaarrrggggghhhhh It’s not letting me for some reason and now it seems I may have totally un-pinned it? So sorry! Not sure what I’ve done! :frowning:

Maybe @Kinetic can help?

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You have proved my point, @tatjana, with this posting!!! So less of the “Ayayay”!!! :sunny: :smiley:

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Thank you very much @henddraig and @tatjana :smile: I’m looking forward to using the forum much more often!

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Ok quick question - I’m sure I know the answer i’m going to ask anyway.

I started with level 1 last wednesday and I’ve just finished it. I found I got about 3/4 of the stuff in level 25 correct and the remaining 1/4 was a case of “oh yes of course it was”.

I am lucky in that I learnt welsh in school albeit a long time ago and did try learning without much success 25 years ago so much of it feels familiar.

So should I spend time consolidating level 1 or move on to level 2. I’m off on holiday for a week very soon and it seems an ideal opportunity to plough on. What would people advise.

I should add that I know a welsh speaker and try the odd phrase with her and indeed text her things I know how to say in welsh without worrying about the spelling!

As you said, you know the answer.
Go on and don’t try to “consolidate”. It will consolidate if you use what you know " in the wild". If you go on in this pace you will finish Level 2 by next weekend and you’ll be able to chat with your friend fluently.
So if you’ve finished Level one and two within less than three weeks, don’t forget to reward yourself for this achievement and share your success with us.

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Da iawn ti @petermescall! Llongyfarchiadau!

And … @brigitte said it all … :slight_smile:

Diolch yn fawr iawn. O’n i’n mynd i ddechrau’r cwrs nesa ond do’n i ddim yn siwr. Dwi’n mynd i ddechrau heno efo gwydr o win!!! Dwi di mwynhau dysgu cymraeg a dwi’n gobeithio trio siarad efo fy ffrind wythnos nesa.

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Lesson one. Level two. Faster. A lot faster. I’m in work next week then on holiday in Thailand for a week. I’m going to try to get through level two by then. Suggestions please for next steps. I can try things a couple of times a week with a first language speaker. We are going away for a weekend too. I will have finished level 2 by then. Is it realistic to think we could just speak welsh all weekend?