Hello, I’m not sure if this is the right place to ask, but was wondering if anyone would be able to help with the translation of “tears of joy”? If there is a variation used more commonly in the North I’d really appreciate that translation as that’s where my family is from. Diolch yn fawr 
“tears of joy” would be dagrau o lawenydd, but you could also say wylo o lawenydd or wylo gan lawenydd which is “weeping from/with joy”.
2 Likes
Hi Siaron; ohh okay; thank you so much for your help! I really appreciate it and the additional options
1 Like
Okay, try again
Can I say wedi with other sentences like ddylwn i ddim wedi gwylio y ffilm 'na to mean I should not have watched that movie or Baswn i wedi cyfarfod nhw to mean I would have met them?
Basically, yes.
Technically, the first example needs and extra bod - ddylwn i ddim bod wedi gwylio’r ffilm 'na but you’ll hear people saying it without as well.
Sentences that have the ‘some form of bod’ then yn structure, can replace the yn with wedi like your second example.
3 Likes
Though wrongly 
The point about dylwn i (etc) is that (intervening ddim apart) it has to be followed by a VN - so when there’s a wedi preceding the VN, we need an extra ‘dummy’ VN to attach directly to the dylwn i (etc), and that dummy VN is of course bod. This becomes fod in the positive, because it directly follows the subject, while in the negative it’s the ddim that takes the SM instead, for the same reason.
So for should, all is simple:
Dylwn i fynd I should go
Ddylen i ddim mynd I shouldn’t go
But for should have we have introduced a wedi (remember we don’t use an yn in the shoulds, because it’s dylwn, but we’re required to introduce a wedi simply because of the meaning), which isn’t a VN itself, and so the dummy bod comes into play:
Dylwn i fod wedi mynd I should have gone
Ddylwn i ddim bod wedi mynd I shouldn’t have gone
There’s a new book coming out soon that explains this wonderfully, I’m told
Meanwhile there’ll be a short test on all this next period.
8 Likes
Wps - typo! Ddylwn i ddim mynd, of course.
Happens to the best of us! 
1 Like
I was going to try to explain all of this last night, but I’d just got back from Welsh evening at the pub (Arfon Ales, Llandrindod, every Wednesday from 8:00pm, Radnorshire and Builth Hundred folks), so I thought I’d best not. Luckily the professionals appear to have stepped in.
2 Likes
1 Like
I don’t normally do typos, Siaron, as you know - but I’ve not long got back from Welsh all-nighter at the pub (Arfon Ales, Llandrindod, every Wednesday from 11:00pm through till dawn, Radnorshire and Builth Hundred), so I should have known better really, shouldn’t I?
3 Likes
Just learned na, 'sgynnon ni ddim, and I’m wondering if the slangy way of saying it extends to, for instance, na, 'sgen i ddim to say no, I don’t have
2 Likes
yup. 'sgen i ddim / 'sgen ti ddim / 'sganddo fo ddim / 'sganddi hi ddim / 'sgynnoch chi ddim / 'sgynnyn nhw ddim… all good.
1 Like
'Sgeni’m if you’re feeling particularly efficient.
5 Likes
it might be just a case of witnessing language evolution in progress 
1 Like
A very cogent observation, Deborah, that is certainly not without merit.
2 Likes
Hyd yn hyn neu eto - beth mae’r gwahaniaeth?
I know eto can be used for both yet and again, I’ve only encountered hyd yn hyn to mean yet. When meaning yet, is it just a matter of preference or would you use one in certain instances over the other?
There’s not really a difference and they are fairly interchangeable to mean ‘yet’, so yes, it’s a matter of preference - personally I tend to use eto for ‘yet’ and hyd yn hyn more as “so far”/ “up to now”
4 Likes
Just home from a brief holiday in Llandudno, visited Caernarfon and Blaenau Ffestiniog and had some conversations while buying stuff (books, mugs, sewing kit, cups of coffee etc) and I’m sure I heard “sti” at the end of some sentences. Is this a shortening of wnest ti? I have been learning southern welsh but I found that I really liked the accent and rhythm of the welsh in those places.
1 Like