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Thanks @RichardBuck - I have passed this on.

Rich :slightly_smiling_face:

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Just an observation, the gap between hearing the sentence in English and the French translation seem much longer on the web app than the phone app.

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On a language / grammar point. The questions are given in their traditional / correct reverse form, but from what I’ve read,seen or heard, this is very rarely used in speech nowadays.

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Has everyone downloaded the new app?
I’m a bit confused - I’m on Level 2 Episode 23 on the old app - but how do I get to that level in the new app? I can’t have to skip through every lesson manually surely? It would take hours.

Also, one of my favourite things to do in the old app is to go back and revisit previous lessons - particularly the last few of Level 1 as they really pull that whole level together. I’m feeling a bit lost with the new app - how do I do that?

Diolch

@owen-21 in the future we’re planning to add assessments into the app, which will allow people to jump ahead to a more appropriate starting place if they already have significant Welsh learning, so you do.

For the moment though, the only way to advance in the app is to use the Skip button. Perhaps leave it running in a corner while you have dinner or something? :slight_smile:

However, have you explored ‘Account’ and ‘My Resources’? That acts as a gateway to all of our learning material, so you can get easily to the Challenges, the Original Course, and everything else we offer through there. If you want to revise earlier Challenges, that’s the way to get to them.

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Ah brilliant - so glad the classic courses are still there. Thanks. Please don’t get rid of them!

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One for @rich - on the Irish through the medium of Welsh - the word for “tired” is used in a sentence before/without being introduced as a new word on its own. (I’m basically working through without skipping forwards or back, and I know I haven’t had it before, because I guessed at it being the same as Scots Gaelic or Manx, and it isn’t! I’m not sure what it is, because I was up a ladder at the time and couldn’t look at the screen, but I definitely hadn’t had it before!)

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Diolch yn fawr iawn, these are hugely helpful catches :pray::heart:

I’ve gone back to it today, and tuirseach/flinedig/tired was the next new word I got - so it’s not far astray, just slightly out of sequence.
ETA
Wyt ti’n/atá tu just got introduced after I’ve been using it for a while, followed by using it with teimlo which hadn’t been introduced (and was totally unlike Gaelic & Manx, and didn’t use atá tu in the Irish).

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One more: the prompt “(rhaid) i mi wella” for “caithfidh mé feabhsú” is always(?) given without the word “rhaid” but the Irish translation is always given with “caithfidh”.

ETA: the word “rud” (peth, thing) is introduced as a new word: the following prompt is, I think, “bod e’n peth da” - I think I may have slightly misheard that, because the mutations look wrong, but it’s along those lines - but the supplied answer is just “rud” from both speakers.

ETA Shortly after that it stops with “Error generating audio, retrying in 10 seconds.” I don’t know if that’s actually an error, or if I’ve reached the end of the demo. Closing and restarting the app gives the same error; changing the language to English and trying Irish, Spanish and North Welsh works fine.

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I have recorded separate items on our system related to the above.

Thanks for your help

Rich :slightly_smiling_face:

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I downloaded the app a few days ago to start French. There is a lot of repetition but it’s not excessive- I airway have a bit of rudimentary French, so I’m keen to move on but I think I’d I didn’t I would appreciate the extra confirmation.

I haven’t had any problems with the app yet but I’ve basically only loaded the French course and cracked on it so :man_shrugging:t4:

I absolutely love the idea of using LLMs to create this content, it’s a gastric implementation of that technology. I play with ChatGPT and the API a bit and it’s incredibly powerful, this is such a good use case. Honestly, amazing.

So, on that note, roll on the next 37 languages or so! :joy:
Congratulations

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I’m also now really enjoying Irish-through-Welsh, though not yet as far through as @RichardBuck.

I notice an occasional glitch where the app seems to freeze, and then start as if it has jumped slightly forward, giving up on the sentence I was trying to say before the Irish speakers have spoken and immediately starting on new material. This isn’t when I (very occasionally) use the pause button, but I did notice it when I am going out or coming in, and so moving from WiFi to cell data, and vice versa. Perhaps a coincidence, or perhaps the app having a little mini-panic when it goes momentarily offline / changes network?

I also notice the “revisit” button is not very helpful (seems to take me really quite a long way back, so I just avoid using it at all), ach ni mhaith liom stopadh Gaeilge a labhairt!
But I think you might already have picked up on the size of the jumps there.

Great that the new app is out in the wild and that you are able to make use of our feedback so quickly :slight_smile:

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I just wanted to say that I’m really liking the new app. I use it my jacket pocket with the screen off while walking the dog. I learnt from the original app that, contrary to my previous beliefs, this aural way of learning works well for me, so I can’t really comment on the addition of the text.

I’ve been using it to redo the northern Welsh course. I did the ‘new’ course on the original app and then the ‘old’ one. The difference between the ‘old’ and the ‘new’ was a step-change whereas this latest iteration is a refinement of the ‘new’ and irons out many of the bumps in the journey. It is a very positive development and makes me look forward to seeing new languages appear and hopefully one that I’ve wanted to learn for years but have never quite had the motivation to do with traditional learning methods, Japanese.

The addition of the advanced material for Welsh and the other original bits in the My Resources area is very welcome. I particularly like the way the advanced content is now grouped by topic, which is so helpful. In the Android version of the original app it wasn’t laid out neatly like this. :+1:

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Delighted to hear that - diolch o galon i ti! :heart: :partying_face:

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My child is trying the French course (having heard me rave about SSIW so many times) but when I try to subscribe I get an error message. Is this linked to it being in beta?

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Hi @julia-treen

No, we have lots of people subscribing which is great! :tada: but means we need to understand your situation to understand what is going on.

Which method are you trying to use - Apple/ Google or the Web method ( Stripe) - and what happens? (PM me.if you prefer?)

Thanks

Rich :slightly_smiling_face:

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Thanks @rich . I was on the web app and clicked on the subscribe button, at which point I got the error message “failed to initiate checkout”. It didn’t as far as me filling in card details.

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Fascinating - thank you for that feedback- we will check this out immediately.

Rich :slightly_smiling_face:

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Thanks for letting us know about that @julia-treen - it is fixed!

Rich :slightly_smiling_face:

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