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The berries on the rowan[/quote]
Raymond’s photo of the rowan berries suggested to me that I add this photo from our front yard - Firethorn (pyracanthus) - looks a lot like both rowan and mountain ash, but with lots of very sharp thorns!

(click to embiggen :smile: )

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Does anyone know the Welsh name for this, the rose mallow, now commonly just called the hibiscus?

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Huh, I never knew hibiscus was the same as the rose mallow. I looked in Y Geiriadur Mawr and found that “mallow (common)” is malws or hocys. It also says the “marsh mallow” is hocys y gors [typo corrected] (mallow of the marsh). So I suppose a rose mallow would be something like hocys rhosyn ?

Collectively we should get there! Yes, Hibiscus is a wide group of plants and the name ‘rose mallow’ seems to have dropped out of modern usage.

Marsh mallow is better known but people seem unaware that what they buy as marshmallow sweets in a bag is a replacement for the natural product.

‘Mallow’ is given as ‘hocys’ but translation of ‘marshmallow’ seems to refer to the sweet as it is given as ‘malws melys’.

Gareth King gives ‘marsh’ as ‘cors’ so I would have expected something like ‘hocys gors’ for ‘marshmallow’ but I’ve got nowhere with the hibiscus and am stuck with just the botanical name. Maybe we need to go back a generation!

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My Geiriadur, in a section specifically about plants, gives ‘hocys y gors’ for marsh mallow. Rose mallow isn’t listed and neither is hibiscus!! ‘hocys’ is listed as meaning ‘mallows’!!! This is also listed in my little old Collins-Spurrell, but mallow is not in the English section!!
to @Sionned I like firethorn, but we dare not grow it… too spikey for the dogs!! The rowan outside my front window is just reddening now, but the back ones are slower! (facing south but with big hill cutting off sun!). :sunny:

Yep, that was a typo on my post - should be (and I’ve corrected it) hocys y gors

Garhir Aderyn: Crane

These birds are sometimes called Crëyr, the word for Heron. But, these two types of birds are distinctly different. Cranes are taller and heavier than herons and have longer life spans. While herons are almost always found near water feeding on fish, cranes are commonly found in fields. One of the best ways to distinguish them is during flight. While herons coil their necks up, cranes’ necks are stretched out straight.


Sandhill Crane (Grus canadensis)

Sandhill Cranes get to be about 4 feet tall. The feed mostly on sand beetles. They are usually found in groups.

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Consider me enlightened. :thumbsup:
I never even knew mallow was the name for a plant. Hibiscus are plentiful here in the southern US but they are never called rose mallow.

We say hibiscus also and I have one in my garden but never even think to use it for anything … :slight_smile:

I am very lacking in knowledge, but I suspect that yours is a cultivar and it is much safer not to eat it. I only trust natural plants. In fact some decorative versions of herbs have no flavour!! (e.g. thyme) I’m not actually sure which bit of the marsh mallow plant was eaten, although I did realise it must have been, to give rise to the name of the sweet!

Yes, it is cultivated though. Well you can find it somewhere in those 2 little movies. Enjoy.

I see hibiscus as an ingredient for herbal teas.

After reading about it, it seems it was the root.

Well, we tend to dring tee from pure hibiscus, but it’s never that one from our garden … :slight_smile:

I made a really terrible typo and put ‘safer now to eat’ instead of ‘safer not to eat’!! I have edited it!!!

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I thought so as I’ve heard that cultivated one is not for eating/drinking at all. :slight_smile: But anyway. I also have a lot of Calendula in our garden but we don’t use it in any way. They’re just decorations to the garden as they are such bright orange flowers.

I have returned from a great week in north Wales and may be some time sifting photo’s to find some usable ones.
First last Sunday was the super moon which i notice some one @AnnaC has posted better images than mine.

Soon after darkness crossed the land i took some photo’s of the moon at low level which where not good quality but now viewing them on the computer i got one with an aeroplane crossing in front of the moon.

Nearing bed time the moon was higher in the sky (so less atmospheric distortion).

I set my alarm for 3 in the morning and at about 03:10 am the moon was very high and nearing disappearing behind a mountain (which does not show in the photo).

As an aside, while at Plas tan y bwlch i found that there should be a weekend course on the Mabinigion next spring, tutored in welsh and going out in the mini bus to visit the places mentioned in the story.

Cheers J.P.

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What a splendid start to the day.

Rhodotus Palmatus.

It has been years waiting to find one of these rare fungi with the faint netting on the cap in tact.
Any wet weather and the netting just washes of but today after several dry days i found one in
perfect condition.

From last week in north Wales.


Tafod y gors - common butterwort.

Cnwp-fwsogl mawr - Fir clubmoss.

I was told this is another club moss but for now the identity is unknown to me.

Gweirloyn y clawdd - Wall brown.
This was the surprise of the week (on the last day), these have become scarce compared with when i was young. Now they seem to be limited to coastal areas so it was a surprise large to see them on top of a mountain especially as it was October the second.

Cheers J.P.

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A few photo’s from my week in the Welsh mountains, the walks we did were over, Aran faddwy, Arenig fawr, Rhinog’s, Glyder’s and Cnict.

What a beautiful start.

Old bridge - hen pont.

Gafr - Goats.

Look what the ice age left behind, a pile of rocks looking like a bad hair day.

One of our group on the cantilever rock with the great expanse of snowdon and other mountains in the background. A photo just could not capture the incredible amount of mountain tops stretching to the horizon on all sides.

View from Croesor of Cnict and the top was brilliant.

Llyn y biswail, the photo does little justice of the great reflection in a large llyn.

Approaching the ruins of Rhosydd quarry.

I have booked for some more of this in January when i suspect the weather will not be as balmy.

Cheers J.P.

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Beautiful pics John. I wish I could have gone.