What language would you like next? [formerly: A release! (Some fun things bubbling under)]

Yes, but it’s the only one I’ve tried on the new toy as yet - I would’ve assumed it was language independent, but that is an assumption. I’m happy to try 10 minutes or so of the beginning of the new Irish, if that might help pin it down(?)
ETA - I have a sneaky feeling that it might only happen after the screen goes off, but I’m not sure. Could potentially link to other Android problems(?)

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Super valuable, diolch o galon - if you’ve got the patience to test Irish, that would be superb - if it happens for you on Irish but nobody else is reporting it, we’ll know it’s really about drilling down towards your device…

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I’m almost to Orange belt in Romanian and have not experienced said garbling, so maybe (hopefully) it’s just the Greek course…

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Well, I’ve just tried the first 12 minutes of Irish, and had quite the opposite problem - I deliberately allowed the screen to switch off, in case that was part of the picture, but found that when I did so everything became funereally slow. The actual tts slowed down so that the voices sounded thoroughly depressed, and the gaps became so long that I kept thinking the app had stopped, or the sound had turned off. (It hadn’t - if I waited long enough it cut back in.) When I got the screen back on they went back to a more normal pace (but still a lot less pressure than the Greek). Odd. Build 9284a72, Samsung A52s.

ETA I also found some of the prompts seemed to be out of sequence - e. g. triail being introduced after it had already been used several times, etc.

I was a teenager in highschool when the BBC Anthony Hopkins dramatisation of War and Peace came on telly. I fell instantly in love. Part way through the 19 part run, I couldn’t wait another week for my next fix, so I began taking the book out of the school library. I had to go back and renew it week after week, but by the end of the run, I was reading in parallel with the series. I can still see the principal actors in my mind’s eye, which I’m sure helped me to keep the vast array of characters in some sort of order.

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@Catriona Oh, that sounds like fun! :grin:

@michael-murray thanks, that’s really helpful :slightly_smiling_face:

@RichardBuck diolch, I’ll pass that on - in the meantime, we have an attempted fix in for Greek - any changes? :crossed_fingers::crossed_fingers:

Btw, are these other languages on an invitation-only Beta app? My version of the app is only showing the tried-and-tested Welsh/Spanish/Italian/French etc etc My curiosity is piqued. (As if my brain isn’t having enough trouble coping with Italian on top of Welsh…)

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Weird, are you on the beta app? https://saysomethingin.app/

Mine is showing everything other than those you’ve listed. (@aran I’m presuming I’m seeing the right thing? Where the existing courses aren’t added to the beta app yet)

Also VERY excited to hear about the changes you’re looking to make to level three, listening and getting users to (hopefully) C1 through non-core vocab! This will be the biggest upgrade to SSI Welsh in a long time. I nervously await :smiley:

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Ah, no. I was in the full-blown app. I’ve got it now.

I’m looking forward to the new Welsh course too. I’m using my Welsh more than I would ever have imagined, given that I don’t live in Wales. But there is nothing like SSi for really testing out the little grey cells anx getting them eorkinv in tiptop condition

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OK - I just did about 15 minutes of the Greek without it galloping (great!) although at points the speed did seem sometimes to be faster, sometimes slower. I allowed it to continue until the screen went off, and it didn’t gallop even then, but it did leave a couple of extremely long pauses - the first one after the screen went off, then a few normal ones, then another that I timed at around 30 seconds after I had said my response before I had the first voice. It appears :crossed_fingers: to be much improved/largely fixed, but there may still be some tweaking to do.

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Are you on f11a9c0?

If so, we have a candidate fix in there :crossed_fingers:

Yes, that’s the range of courses you should be seeing - pity you’re not seeing the little flags, though - what device are you on?

I’m really, really looking forward to the Level 3 Welsh upgrade as well - we need to get through crash-testing the new app, adding payment options, going live with the schools interface (all of which will take their own crash-testing) and then we’ll be within reach of the new Welsh stuff :slightly_smiling_face::slightly_smiling_face:

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That’s the bunny.

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That was a screenshot on Windows 11. I believe it’s because they’re emojis rather than images of the flags, and windows has never supported flag emojis in their system font. Not sure if there’s a work around to get it working :slight_smile:

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I’m sorry if this isn’t the correct space for this question, but since it’s about the new courses, I thought I’d put it here.

I was curious about the amount of content in these new additions. Are all courses created equal, now, content-wise? Or will some be more developed than others? Do they have the same amount as the Welsh course (though obviously without all of the additional resources)? I’m really enjoying the Romanian course and just curious how far it will go.

Thanks again for your incredibly hard work and dedication to this project.

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OK - not great news, but maybe more evidence. Doing Greek this morning (phone & version as above) - currently Yellow Seed 8/12 or 15. I had the phone paired with a Bluetooth speaker. I allowed the screen to time out, and the sound continued (with some variability of timing) until about 11:40, when I got an example with no English prompt (μαζί, ‘with’ IIRC), followed by a series of prompts tumbling over each other. Is the Greek-with-no-English perhaps a clue? (It has happened occasionally before, but I’m not certain whether or not it always precedes the racing English.)
ETA Comparing it with the netbook, the missing prompt for μαζί appears to be the start of a new seed. Relevant?

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Great news about Ukrainian Aran! I will add this one to my list!

Diolch,
Kev B

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@reilly-featherstone apparently the possible workarounds our side of things involve complications/different kinds of files etc, so it’s probably fairly low down the list for the time being!

@michael-murray that’s a really good question, we haven’t explained much about it - so, the root of our courses are what we call seed sentences - the Welsh course probably covers a little over 200, maybe as much as 250 (it was built in a slightly different way, so it doesn’t match straightforwardly).

Our new courses have 300 seed sentences each - but we have the capacity to increase that to 650 - building that many from the start would slow us down quite a bit, so we’re going to do extra builds per language as and when we get enough people asking :slightly_smiling_face:

@RichardBuck super helpful, diolch o galon! We’re going to try and get hold of an Android device for Tom to try and recreate on, but in the meantime this is massively helpful :folded_hands::folded_hands:

@kevin-beaverstock I’ll look forward to hearing how it goes for you!

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I tend to whip out my app to show people on a very regular basis, any time they tell me they want to learn Welsh / Spanish / Irish etc.

So this morning my co-worker was saying she wants to learn another language, and I was getting ready to show her the app, but she mentioned Basque and Catalan…

They would definitely be on my bucket list as well, given that I regularly come across speakers of those languages in the work that I do.

What are our chances?

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Basque trwy gyfrwng y Sbaeneg* is already on there - from Welsh or English is probably a couple of steps further down the line…

"through the medium of Spanish

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