Query : I want [somebody] to [verb] [something]

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So I know how you would say I want [something] or I want [verb] in welsh which you can use both rwy’n moyn/rwy’n eisiau. However, the construction in the title confuses me how to form it. In Spanish this triggers the subjunctive and is “quiero que”. So in Welsh I feel from experience of other languages that this construction in Welsh won’t be the same as in English.

For example how would you say “I want Dave to go to the shop” or “I want him to go to the movie with me”

Thanks for the help!!
Much appreciated!

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If you want someone else to do something, the construction is
Dw i’n moyn i Dave fynd i’r siop. /
Dw i’n moyn iddo fe fynd i’r sinema gyda fi.
It also works the other way, if someone else wants you to do something: Wyt ti’n moyn i fi fynd i’r siop? - Do you want me to go to the shop?

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Thanks so much.
Hope you have a lovely day!

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A while back a friend of mine (whose expertise I trusted) said that it was (eg):
Wyt ti’n moyn fi’n mynd i’r siop? (for Do you want me to go to the shop?)

..and I’d been using that type of construction ever since.

Then I got to the appropriate bit of the SSiW course and suddenly encountered something along the lines of the above ie:
Wyt ti’n moyn i fi fynd i’r siop?
..and suddenly thought “oops I’ve been doing it wrong for ages”.

Was my previous phrasing wrong, or is this one of those situations where there are several ways of doing it which are all OK?

Also, I’m curious: where does the mutation mynd > fynd in the “i fi fynd” version come from? Does it follow through from the “i” somehow?

Thanks, and hope it’s OK to revive this old topic; I thought that would be better than duplicating it.

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I’m afraid that you have been using a slightly wrong structure all this time. Is it possible that you misunderstood your friend when they were teaching you this structure? Be that as it may, the mutation arises from the placement of the verbnoun mynd, directly following the notional subject fi.

This is by the way the same mutation that changes dim to ddim in sentences such as “Dw i ddim yn gwybod.” It also happens when you form the preterite past with the auxiliary verb gwneud: Wnest ti gau’r ffenest? - Did you close the window?
(But note the negative response: Naddo, wnes i ddim cau’r ffenest. – here, dim is again mutated to ddim, and this “blocks” the verb from being mutated, because only the next word mutates.)