Pronouncing "YCHYDIG

P’raps I should have recorded myself saying Es i allan efo ychydig o ffrindiau instead, and we could see how comprehensible it came out… I’m genuinely surprised that so many people seem to be listening to the same thing as me & hearing something different (but clearly, they can’t all be wrong!) - although having listened carefully to the clip when I uploaded it, I would have said it sounded to me like Aran was putting level (equal) stress on the first two syllables, but Catrin’s still sounds like the first syllable to me. I wonder if I’m being thrown by the length of the sound (syllabifying it as ych-y-dig) or the kind of white-noisy effect of the -ch-?

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Re: the northern “u” /“y” sound, this is the video that I was referring to. In reviewing it, I realised that I’d forgotten that it’s only in long “y” that there is a north-south difference. In the short “y” examples, the two speakers sound almost identical.

They also have a video about vowels in general, which also talks about the northern “u” / “y” issue.

They talk about exceptions, but not the exceptions where non-final “y” is not pronounced like “UH”. Perhaps it’s too much of a complication for a video of this nature.

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I have to admit @RichardBuck, that’s exactly how I hear it. Always sounds as though there is more stress on the ych. Same pattern of stresses as you would use to say the word ‘demonstrate’ or something.
I have never done the Northern course, only the Southern, so it can’t be Aran and Catrin’s doing! :grin: Iestyn and Cat must be doing it too (which probably means it’s my brain instead).
I’m going to have to abandon the front y to change this pattern - it is well and truly ingrained!