I am relatively new to learning Welsh, and my conversational skills are not that great, I can say the basic sentences like ‘sut dych chi a pwy dych chi’ but I can’t hold a conversation. I just short circuit and can’t come up with words to say.
I also don’t have anyone to speak Welsh to, because I don’t live in Wales or in a place where there are many Welsh speakers.
If you haven’t had an invitation to join the SSiW Community Chat Slack group, you can request an invite by email admin@saysomethingin.com with WSP as the subject. It’s a good place to ask questions, and you can join in the online partner and group chats there.
I would also suggest searching for the name of your nearest town/city in this forum as there are quite a few learners groups outside of Wales. If nothing comes up you could always try setting one up!
Just a slight correction - emailing with WSP gives you an invitation to join the open Welsh Speaking Practice Slack group. It’s a space where Welsh learners can contact each other and organise online chats, and there are some regular sessions set up by learners, including in different time zones, e.g. the Americas and Australia.
The SSiW Community Chat Slack group is for anyone who subscribes to SSi and is learning Welsh, e.g. individual paying subscribers, and those learning through Dysgu Cymraeg registration, or through their workplace. To get an invitation to that, just email admin@saysomethingin.com as well. That’s a more active place to join in partner and group chats led by a tutor - 6 sessions a week, Monday to Friday, at varying times. The timetable is in the Slack group - #1-start-here.
Dysgu Cymraeg runs free/cheap courses and there are lots for beginners and they will give you a chance to talk to other learners at your level with a tutor to guide you. They often run day-long courses on the weekends which will give you the chance to chat too. https://learnwelsh.cymru/
I had my first Dysgu Cymraeg course yesterday, so I am making progress, but I just feel like it is going to slow, I just have to give it some time I guess.
I also did join a chat via Slack, a couple of weeks ago, but felt a little bit like a burden cause I couldn’t speak much, and when I was spoken to I just felt like a deer caught in headlights I guess I just have to give it another try! Maybe try writing out some sentences to get started.
I can say with some certainty that almost every beginner has felt exactly the same way - it’s completely natural.
Nobody will mind if you don’t contribute much to begin with because we’ve pretty much all been there. The trick (and I know this is easier said than done) is to use whatever Welsh you have, even if it’s only a few words. The only way to build confidence - and that’s what is at the route of this, not vocabulary - is to not worry about mistakes, pauses, or having to use English now and then. The slack groups are very friendly and supportive, so they’re the best place to find your feet with conversations.
A good phrase to add to your toolbelt is “Beth yw/ydy eich enw chi?” Which is, “What is your name?” (Yw is used in the south, ydy in the north, with the usual caveats that people move around and you never know quite you’ll hear, especially in mid-Wales, etcetera.)
As a learner you’ll be given a lot of grace by most, but I’ve been told pretty firmly that “Who are you?” is usually considered rather abrupt / rude. Although, using the formal chi as you did ought to alleviate that impression at least a bit!
Some people feel strongly about this, it seems.
I am following the mynediad un a dau course, but am just looking for more ways to immerse myself in the language. The other learners live or in Wales or in places with better access to the language.
Diolch yn farw for the links, I will give it a go!
I found this, at the start it goes slow for the first few weeks and then really speeds up! Hang in there. The week course’s that they run are really good, for example the summer course at Bangor, they do trips and activities too in the afternoons.
Please don’t ever feel like a burden, we’ve all been there as learners so everyone understands, if anything you should feel proud of yourself, I go to chats twice a week and sometimes feel why am I bothering and other weeks I’m chatting with people who are fluent.
I suggest when you’ve got a bit of time to yourself is to record yourself reading a learners book or record yourself chatting, you can practice as many times as you like and make as many mistakes as you like until your happy with what you’ve done and delete what your not happy with.
Dal ati