Had a little golden moment yesterday, I’m on holiday on Ynys Môn, (Angelesey) and went to Llanfair Pg to buy a few thinks, when I went to pay, I said to the young lady Shwmae and she answered in Welsh, that’s when I panicked I said mae’n ddrwg gen i ond wnes i ddim dallt (I’m sorry but I don’t understand) I explained that I’m only a beginner, she said that she’s fluent welsh, she asked me where I come from in Welsh and I answered in Welsh, I said dw i wedi bod yn dysgu siarad Cymraeg am tua Blwyddyn (I have been Learning for about a year) she asked am I at college (in English) I explained Im a member of SSiW and we have chat with zoom and have lessons each week, she said I should feel proud and to carry on practicing, I did make a bit of a fool of myself, when she said I should feel proud of myself I said dylet ti’n diemlo balch ohonot ti dy hun back to her the realised I’de said you should feel proud of yourself I then said dw i’n gobeithio siarad Cymraeg llawer mwy blwyddyn nesa, i said I’m feeling embarrassed now she said not to and she’s made up I’m making the effort, I came away feeling proud and humble
Da iawn i ti, Stephen.
Well done. You’ve had your first real conversation in the wild.
Feeling proud and makes me want to learn more, just wish I could understand more
Well done ineed! Your first “wild” Welsh is a huge step . Understanding more will come in time. Until then, a handy phrase to keep nearby is “eto ond arafach plîs” (again but slower please) - that will help on lots of occasions, but even for the times when a slower repetition still leaves you behind, don’t be embarrassed, just say you haven’t got to that bit yet!
Thanks Sharon I’ll remember that, I’ve just said shwmae sut wyt ti she replied da Iawn diolch I ti, I did explain I’m struggling a bit with understanding, she said which part, I said all of it she did explain how things are different, and I said diolch, everyone seems eager to help, lovely people
@stephen-22 That first conversation is such a mix of emotions. I remember it well. Congratulations on taking the plunge and happy learning.
Diolch, it’s a nice feeling trying, everyone is really helpful
Da iawn, ti! It takes a lot of guts to speak Welsh in the wild for the first time. That’s wonderful! …and don’t feel embarassed. We all make mistakes - that’s how we learn. Dal ati!
Diolch, Yeah it was a nice feeling, and the people were so nice,
I thought sut dach chi was normal Gog usage?
Sut dach chi and sut wyt ti mean the same but one is formal and the other informal
The N/S difference is in pronounciation, but both are understood everywhere.
S - sut is often pronounced shwd, so you get shwd dych chi (plural & formal) and shwd wyt ti (singular & informal), and shwmae
N - sut is pronounced as it is spelt, so you get sut dach chi (plural & formal) and sut wyt ti (singular & informal) and sutmae (or s’mae), but you do also get shwmae in the North too.
My Southern friend generally uses sut, possibly because he’s a Welsh medium teacher. I hear swt a fair bit (possibly Kate Crocket) who is great to listen to for Southern Cymraeg. And I think it has to be rhwysut for “somehow” throughout Wales. Such fun playing around with that word.