Many thanks Aran, I really appreciate everything you all do on here!
hi cant seem to pronounce cant finding it a bit difficult any tips please
Are you doing the northern or southern course, Tony?
South and many thanks
Southern thanks
Is there anything in particular tripping you up with the pronunciation? Or does it just all seem a bit tough?
If itâs the latter, hang on in there, it will start to seem more familiar over time, because of the amount of listening you do with this approachâŚ
ok. not a question just a statement. i have struggled through to challenge14 and not missed many days at all but this is just too much . i give up now and am so sad to fail. good luck and my sincere admiration to all of those who can do this i wish i was one of you.
Ooo @hilary-moorhouseâŚ
âŚ12, 13 and 14 are world famously the toughest ones - I think Aran has said more than once that in retrospect, a bit too muchâŚ
âŚso you have just slogged your way to the brow of the hill - and I congratulate you most sincerely for thatâŚits a real achievement but it starts to level out a bit nowâŚand the repetition in future lessons allows to pick up the content of these lessons over time.
Maybe you need a breakâŚlots of people have done it all different waysâŚand of course itâs your callâŚbut it would be a great, great shame for you to stop at this particular point.
You have my utmost sympathies - I can remember my head hurting after thoseâŚhopefully you can resume or find a way through
Rich
Absolutely what Rich said in his post!
This forum is especially for everyone to help everyone out when they hit sticky patches - please donât feel you have to struggle through the difficult bits alone. We are here to help, but can only do so when we know help is needed, so please, please, donât give up yet, let us help you by posting any questions, anxieties or even fed-up-ness you have - weâve all been there, and can hopefully turn them into answers, advice and positive breakthroughs.
Thanks Rich you are very kind. At the moment i canât face any more and am sorry to let down my Welsh speaking friends who have been so encouraging.
donât know what else to say,.
@hilary-moorhouse âŚplease donât beat yourself about anything - you havenât let anyone down - not at all.
The truth is - in reality - if youâve got that far, that you are already a Welsh speaker⌠you have got a lot of the major structures under your belt by that point - which could take years via other methodsâŚand how long has it taken youâŚ?
Have you been doing the lessons by yourselfâŚor via one of the structured courses?
Rich
Being overfaced is a temporary effect, Hilary, really! Do not be put off by having found a limit, itâs a good sign! Have a bit of a rest, perhaps, and come back if you can, if you can find any slight curiosity. Come back and gaze at the battleground that right now feels now like the site of your âdefeatâ, disappointment & shame. Have a dig around in some shrapnel on the site, and you may find your appetite for doing battle with the old foe/friend/sparring partner will return. In a few days, a week, or two.
Just say hi here on the site!
Be prepared to cheat! Break all the rules. In the challenges: Talk over the guy giving chunks in English as soon as you know how to say anything heâs asking for, and donât let âthat womanâ put you off saying what you can, even if she has left too short a gap! (Oooh, they have made me SOooo angry sometimes!)
Perhaps just listen to the next challenge for its first 15 mins and say nothing! Rebel! Hold back! Do a past challenge from 5 or 10 challenges back, and see if you can show yourself how much you know, how much youâve learned, how curious it still is to you!
I say that because actually, even when youâve just reached that limit, your brain is working away, still learning and absorbing and connecting with what you know, and as long as you keep coming back to some vaguely familiar territory (perhaps being less ambitious, but rediscovering your determination) that zone of apparent âimpossibilityâ and âtoo-muchnessâ will start to feel familiar, and more possible again.
It happens to me on a regular basis. Iâm not a model student, but after 22 months Iâm still hereâŚ
I have just started the course (completed week 2 of South Wales). I downloaded the app and noticed that I can access all of the challenges now. Would you recommend waiting until I receive the emails before moving on? (as there are other things to do each week besides the challenges)
Diolch,
Andrew
Welcome Andrew
Itâs a personal choice really - I think some people do move on, others prefer to wait for the emails.
Are you doing the 6 minute-a-day course or the 6 month course?
The 6 month course follows the same material but in a shorter time-frame, so one thing I would say is that if you do move on, donât be disheartened when things get a bit more intense (as they will!). Also, if you do move on by yourself, do still do the extra tasks set in the emails, youâll get enormous benefit from them.
If youâre following the 6 minute-a-day course and find the pace too slow for you (you are still only beginning, so remember, the âpaceâ will âhot upâ!), by all means move ahead, but again, do the extra tasks as well - you can always slow down and stick with the email pattern when the harder challenges set in.
Either way, it needs to stay âdo-ableâ and fun, so find the way that helps you carry on best.
Whatever you decide, remember the forum community is always here for you, so if you need answers, encouragement, or even to let us know of your breakthroughs, keep posting!
Thank you. I am doing the 6 month course and enjoying it so far. I think I will stick with the two sessions per week for now and see how I go!
Hi Andrew!
Good question! I rather regretted racing ahead⌠However, having a chilled look in Week 0, at all that the coming course has to offerâŚ
[e.g. a Slack community â6/6 Supportâ (as soon as you get the joining instructions) deciding how youâll make your profile clearly yours, distinct from other Andrews, becoming familiar with all the channels on there, each having a specific purpose, including â# introduce yourselfâ and â# group video sessionsâ (link in that channel but timetable under # announcements), and sessions which include a Q&A of 30mins length in English so you can safely say hi in person]
⌠and finding your way round this forum, on which you now have a posting & thread here, + also having explored what is on the SSi website (FAQs, etc): all these preparations will stand you in good stead later.
Best wishes, pob lwc @andrew-birch ⌠I look forward to the possibility of meeting you at an event or a regular meet-up somewhere, or perhaps online in a group video session.
P.S. Subscribing to the emailed newsletter that @CatrinLliarJones sends out or to the additional Slack community WSP; looking up SSiW on social media, if you use that sort of thing, these will alert you to the rich life that is out there (and in here) for you! You can then prioritise with ease.
how do you record myself on soundcloud please
It sometimes depends on what gadget youâre using (pc/phone/tablet etc), but what I do is record using the in-built software on my laptop, then upload the track to soundcloud, then copy the âshareâ link to post it back in the relevant section in the forum.
You might find some other tips here, or if you search for âsoundcloudâ using the magnifying glass on the top banner, youâll find other threads that may help too.
Hi everyone Not sure if my brain is hard wired or if its just me - Iâm on lesson one and Iâm really struggling to remember to say âDâwymâ rather than âRâwynâ. Is that a problem, do I need to work at this, or is Râwyn ok? I also must be rectivating my Welsh brain cells from when I was MUCH younger, because I automatically said Isiau (?) rather than Moyn. Help! I know we arenât striving for perfection, but Iâd like to getthe first lesson right at least!
Thanks xx
Youâre ârightâ whichever one you go with, because theyâre just different ways of saying the same thing - rwyân is a bit more formal and old-fashioned, but that doesnât matter - dwiân (note: N, not M) is more common/normal now - but if you go with whichever comes to mind first, youâll be fine, and in due course youâll almost certainly end up using whichever version you hear most from the people you spend most time in conversation withâŚ