Is there a list or table giving verbs like eisiau that drop the n please.
Not that Iām aware of - but there arenāt many of them, so donāt worry too much about it!
Eisiau, angen, that might be about it!.. 
Sometimes moyn in the south but only because people are using it like eisiau. Otherwise, Aran is right, I think.
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The only other one I can think of is dal when it means āstillā:
Dw i dal isio siarad āI still want to speakā
Though in its other meanings, dal always has the yn, e.g. Dw iān dal y bws āIām catching the busā.
(You could also argue that dal āstillā is more of an adverb than a verbā¦ but I wonāt get into grammary stuff 
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Ohhh ā¦ my list of them is long one!
BUT ONLY BECAUSE I FORGET TO USE 'N PREFIX IN ALMOST EVERY SENTENCE i MAKE!
But yes, on the sirious matter ā¦ thank you for clearing things up. My life will become easier now knowing this.
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I was told that the linking 'yn, goes between the part of ābodā and the verb. The reason you donāt have āynā between ābodā and eisiau/angen/etc is that they are nouns and not verbs.
Is this an absolute rule or are there exceptions? However, it does apply to eisiau and angen.
Well, itās a rule, but there are very few nouns which have come to be used like verbs in that particular way! Eisiau and angen as you say, moyn (a verb) sometimes follows if you want, possibly due to following eisiau, as RobertBruce says but not necessarily, as does dal (what kinetic said) sometimes when meaning need but not necessarily- but there arenāt enough of these things to have a general rule, really, I would have thought.
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This is a grammar-geek aside, butā¦ if weāre talking about parts of speech, then Iāve always personally considered isio and angen to be prepositions, not nouns. Yes, they derive from nouns, but they behave exactly like prepositions. Prepositional phrases also follow bod without an yn - e.g. dw i ar y ffordd, mae o mewn trwbl. Compare: dw i isio siarad vs. dw i am siarad, both meaning āI want to speakā. See what I mean?
And they behave the same in other tenses too: for example, if you put dw i ar y ffordd into the perfect, you get dw i wedi bod ar y ffordd. And with isio itās the same: dw i wedi bod isio siarad (and not *dw i wedi isio siarad).
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That is a really helpful way of looking at it, Kinetic - ta v. v. much.
Thank you for that. I have printed these responses out to put into my Welsh grammar book!
My advice is not to get into lists or tables here. As our fellow posters have pointed out, there are few āverbsā that make up that list. āYnā has many alternatives, depending on what you want to say, like wedi, dal, ar fin, newydd, am, heb - think of eisiau and angen as two more. These are all link words that are used with bod and a verb noun (to use Gareth Kingās terminology)
Anyway, that is my simple take on this.
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