Can you do it somewhere in private? The āout loudā bit is a central part of this stepā¦
I know, I knowā¦ will try, promise, Sir. Perhaps am chwech oār gloch yn y bore 'fory, as far away from y gwely as ffossib!
Or lock yourself in the bathroom with the radio on?
Or just pretend to be on the phone to someone?..
Or actually call someone!
Love it @aran - diolch yn fawr iawn. Perhaps I should lock myself in the ystafell ymolchi, turn the AND call someone whom I wonāt have a gath in hellās cyfle of clywedāing because of the being on in the Hinterland
Alternatively, Iāll just banish fy gwr i for pum munud - much easier. Canāt wait to show the ātestā to my friend Cheryl yfory. Weāre doing one of our weekly ymarfer sessions which is more a question of trying to cement and further her own commitment (sheās flagging somewhat, but refuses point blank to do SSIW; says it āannoys herā ā¦ hey, I suppose you canāt win 'em all, eh?). Weāre both doing Mynediad in a traditional evening class (year 2 now), but she hasnāt got my determination and those gritted teeth you talk about either near the end of Level 2 or in one of the first 3 challenges of Lefel tri/driā¦
No, but seriously though, I absolutely promise Iāll do the test aloud yfory and report back with a ādone, not āsort ofāā - howzat?
Dw i wedi ei wneud e. (Please feel free to correct this).
That sounds like a dealā¦
I suspect this might be a big deal for you, Caroline. Anyone who is into Level 3 has got far, far too much Welsh to be on a Mynediad course - which you may already kind of sense - if we can get you (via the 5 minute test) to stay in Welsh only for an hour, I think you might see it all start to flowerā¦
It flowers already if you ask me, just that she didnāt quite realize that yet ā¦
If I wouldnāt be hard at work at my job at 9 am already, hardly having the time to even speak my own language Iād be willing to turn myself into the alien you could call to have the excuse to taok Welsh @carolineparkinson ā¦ But unfortunately I am not in that position though.
sort of, kind of (sense, that is). Iām also doing Duolingo and am on Level 23 with that, plus I try to find other online resource/tools/stuff to keep it all fresh, but learning this way is perhaps even more difficult, since it means Iām getting my Welsh āfixā in perhaps too many different ways. Maybe Iāve made a rod for my own back. Never mind - carry on regardless. The irony is, if someone says something new to me in Welsh, it completely floors me, to the extent that I sink back down a little (only for a millisecond as Iām an eternal optimist, fortunately) and realise that actually, Iāve got a long, long, long way to go. But hey, Rome wasnāt built in a day and, being a Capricorn, you wonāt find more determined than C R Parkinson round 'yere so itās onward, upward and if necessary, sideways for me! Having recently turned the tender (!) age of 59, I need something to exercise the grey matter and what better than learning Welsh? Unbeatable, it is; absolutely, astonishingly, agonisingly, achingly, amazing! Love it. And love the forum when I get a chance to check in. And, unlike ffrind Cheryl, love SSIW.
Whatās the longest conversation youāve had in Welsh?
Hmmmm ā¦ I know this one ā¦
From this post energy bursts in all directions and I can actually feel your determination and passion. Da iawn ti! You will do this test tomorrow just fine, believe me. Donāt worry about perceptions of others. I know them about me at my work too but still this doesnāt prevent me to ask someone every morning a question in Welsh like āBore da, sut ywt ti???ā āHuh???ā and then realization that Iāve told them once already what does it means after what comes the reply āDobrā (good) and slight smile on their face ā¦ Perceptions gone ā¦
Agreed!
A chroeso mawr!
Mmmm, seconds, Iām afraid, not even a minute. Dyna Radnorshire i chi. Thereās just not that many speakers around and are they available when I am? Are they heckā¦ things are always at the wrong time and in the wrong place. I long for a sort of bwtcamp penwythnos that doesnāt involve a dwy-awr gyrru a aros un wythnos. Something short and sweet ble basai fy gwr i ddim teimlo abandoned - if you see what I mean. Perhaps even just a day of intensive siarad with some Welsh-speakers in a place and at a time and one a date that is when I can make it. Iāve expressed an interest more than once in something they do at the Thomas Shop in Penybont bore ddydd Sadwrn and apparently thereās something similar at CARAD in Rhayader, but word just doesnāt seem to me on when one of these bore coffi or whatever it is are being held. I know, i know, it all sounds like a load of lame excuses. I must get off my butt as our American cousins would say and take control. Find out and get on with it. Itās not going to come to me by the looks of it, so I must go to it, mountains, Mohamed and horses and water all come to mind! So, to cut a stori hir byr (LOL) I wouldnāt even call anything Iāve had a āconversationā TBH since that requires at least two participants. First, catch your participantā¦
So the good news is: a huge jump forwards is sitting there, waiting for you, ready to surprise you, as soon as you get yourself into one good long conversation.
Yes, a local intensive weekend would be great, and so on - but seriously, you will get a gigantic kick forward the very first time you put yourself into a one-on-one situation where you commit to using no English for 1 hour.
The ideal would be to find a local Welsh speaker - preferably one you like! - but youāll get almost all the benefits from doing it over Skype, too, and there are loads of people on here whoād be willing to help you do thatā¦
Just made it! EDIT (Jan 20): I did it a month ago but no badge - Do I have to use the word ādoneā?
Wel @aran dw i wedi neud e. Took me just over two minutes and I asked fy gwr i to ignore me - the mad woman talking aloud to herself the other side of the table am brecwast! He did, I did and allās well. The only hesitation was āthat I needā a) Iād anghofioād āangenā and b) it was the āthatā that threw me. So I thought about a bit and did that one outside of the test conditions, if you see what I mean. Came up with something like ādynaār peth tiān angenā which may or may not = that is the thing you needā¦? Suppose I could also have said ādyna blant i chiā. So, pretty please do I merit a funny red speech-mark thingy with dots in - I value my dots, 'sti.
Hah! Forgot to just say ādoneā - soā¦ Done, done, done, done, DONE, DONE, gorffen, finitoād, finished, accomplished, completed, fait, complĆ©tĆ©, achevĆ©, abgeschlossen, drum-roll, tada, etc.
This should go in the āyou know youāre learning Welshā thread. I read ātadaā and wondered why you were calling your father, Tadaā being a āpetā form of āTadā!!!
Gwych - well DONE!
Done it, phew