Tatjana - progress reports

I think it’s probably because you were never willing to admit when you were shining.

There are people on this forum who would love to have as much as you have of as many different languages. But if you focus on the things you can’t do, instead of the things you can do, you’ll never notice how much you’re shining…

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You are not alone with that feeling (i suspect it’s rather common).

Cheers J.P.

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You’re making my eyes wet … out of gratitude. …

Humble thank you to both of you (as well as all the rest here).

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Course 3 - Lessons 15 to 21

15 = 17 %
16 = 7 %
17 = 21 %
18 = 9 %
19 = 13 %
20 = 21 %
21 = 7 %

Lessons of Course 3 until now

3 sets of 7 Lessons of Course 3

The whole 3 courses alltogether until now

Sorry, I’ve limited myself to pure statistics so i won’t satart to moan again as all the things remained the same and I still don’t get the idea about the shortenings.

Countdown to repeating Lesson 24 and 25 of Course 2 is 5 days from today. Who knows what this brings …

Has anyone pointed out to you that you are a perfectionist? I fast-forwarded through 244 messages to get here and find you are nearly at the end of the course 3, have brilliant statistics, which I would never even consider measuring myself, and still think you aren’t that good!!! I remember being told by an Israeli at a scientific symposium that I spoke good English. Surprised, I said, “But it’s my mother tongue!” “Exactly!” he said, “Most English people do not speak it so well!” I didn’t explain that I’m actually Welsh. I did explain that I do try to speak very clearly with no abbreviations and little slang when talking to people from other countries!!
My point, to you, is that if you speak totally perfect Cymraeg, it could end up too good!!!

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Well, thank you. But the more suitable question would be if I speak at all. You saw those ups and sowns in the graph? those empty spaces under the line and upon it is silence. :slight_smile:

But I’m not complaining (well at least I try not to) that’s why I just stressed pure statistics on here in this last post.

And yes, they all tell me I’m perfectionist and the way I measure my progress speaks for itself, doesn’t it. The measuring is very precise - or I’m wrong or I’m right, nothing comes in the middle of this. What actually irritates me more then anything is that if I rememberred one structure once I all of a sudden don’t remember it the next time even if it’s needed to be used in 5 minutes of time space, not more. However this is my general problem seen with learning/reviving of other languages aswell - German with their articles and those things, Italian with similar words which might in my language (some of them being qute similar) mean something oposite then they mean in Italian. etc, etc …

So, if I was frustrated first 5 minutes when finished the last lesson of this set writing this report, I actually am not desperate anymore. I’m just pointing out failures, that’s all.

Good things … hmmm … I can’t remember them. :slight_smile:

Oh, and Slovene is not much different. Many, especially young people, don’t speak good Slovene but rather speak kind of mixture of English and Slovene. Pure sleng in deed. Thankfully I have teenager (my son) at hand him being a computer geek aswell so I’m familiar with all those strange words they use these days that we did not. :slight_smile:

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Would you go into a cafe in Cymru and ask, “Oes espresso genych chi?”, order “Espresso fawr…” and then say, without even thinking about it, “per favore” instead of ‘os gwelwch’n dda’ ? If so, would you collapse in laughter like me or be embarrassed? Try for the laughter!!! Then I’ll say:-

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Hmmm … the best bit would be if I’d say “Oes coffi genych chi, prosim.” (prosim means please). I’m interested in who would be more puzzled, the person at the bar thinking “from which planet this one comes” or me thinking “Why in the name of God he/she looks at me so puzzled. What did I say wront?” - hehe :slight_smile:

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Excellent. Those numbers are extremely encouraging for the tail-end of Course 3 - well done, Tatjana. Let us know when you have the figures for 22 to 25 :sunny:

Just had conversation with @margaretnock. Thank you for your patience, really. Still pondering my thoughts. I have to say I’m highly disappointed upon myself. My vocab vanished out of my head all of a sudden and the structures became totally unfamiliar to me like I would never learn them.

Will try to prepare the theme to talk about the next time. I really thought I could say more just out off my head being always so unstopably talkative otherwise, but obviously it doesn’t go this way …

Thanks once again.

Until the next session then.

No, it doesn’t. You need to practise talking to someone, like everything else. The more time you spend talking, the easier it will get :sunny:

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Oh, @aran, you always find the right words. If there wouldn’t be you here I might not be here too (no matter how helpful the whole community is (please, don’t understand me wrong people (again)))

Diolch yn fawr iawn Aran ac diolch yn fawr iawn i bawb gweddill hefyd.

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Keep on keeping on, you’re going to get there… :sunny:

Finish Course 3, give me the numbers. Then a quick romp (with numbers!) through Level 1. Then I have an interesting test waiting for you…

She was, I hope she doesn’t mind me saying this, a little like a rabbit caught in the headlights. Next time she’ll prepare what she wants to say, and I’ll have a difficult time interrupting her!

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But it is really had to have a 1 to 1 conversation in the target language, no chance to zone out or get lost and nobody notice.

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I adore your cwningen!!!

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Here they are:
L22 = 14 %
L23 = 12 %
L24 = 8 %
L25 = 4 %

22-25 = 9 %

Whole course 3 = 14 %

Whole old Course (1,2,3) = 49 %

EDIT

Course 2 lessons 24 and 25 2nd time repetition just us instructed - today is 13th, remember? So it means 1 month from when this above was written.

Statistics
L24 = 8 %
L25 = 10 %

What mens L24 is for 1 % better but 25 is for 2 % worse.

I have nothing more to ad though. There’s nothing more to say.

Oh yes there is!

And it is:

I’m very happy with those numbers - particularly for the tail-end of Course 3, which is very tough going.

Okay - so now I’d like you to do 2 things.

First of all, go and get started on Level 1… :sunny:

Second: please revisit Course 2 Sessions 24 and 25, and Course 3 Sessions 24 and 25, once every 2 months (and report on the figures when you do).

At the end of Level 1 is when you’re going to get your surprise… :sunny:

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