I'm beginning to get a bit angry

Diolch am y sylwadau.

For something cheap to appeal to kids, then from experience the thing at the moment that is hard to get kids off are the short You tube clips of americans opening toys and selling things. I think they call it “crack for kids” - there is a whole generation of young kids now who can watch short 5 minute clips one after the other all day long if don’t stop them, simply opening and making rubbish toys - things like kinder eggs and making the toys saying things like “Oh, wow that’s awsome”. This is obviously controversial, but if kids are doing that anyway, wouldn’t it better if it was there were some in Welsh. I myself am not sure of what I think about it - unethical certainly, but this is the reality of what kids are doing.

A primary school teacher told me that kids speak like the you tube clips when they are doing reading in class or role playing. It’s quite scary, but whole generation are going to be brought up on this sort of stuff.

We also have to look at how the viewing figures are generated - if I had the time, then I could watch S4C all day long, but I wouldn’t be included in the viewing figures. If every welsh speaker in Wales watched wall-to-wall S4C how much would that actually influence the viewing figure numbers?..Something maybe to bear in mind?

I think I’ll :sob: :cry: Now I really feel old!
Still, I suppose the next generation will survive and a new craze will strike. Just let’s pray it’s more constructive!! (And do-able in Welsh!)

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To be honest - I bet most people out there don’t and I certainly wouldn’t have. But I suspect almost every parent with kids under a certain age will know this. There are times when parents will want just twenty minutes to do something and even the most perfect of parents will probably think at some point - OK you can have twenty minutes watching that (basically wall-to-wall, very poorly produced homemade adverts), even though you know it isn’t very good.

Absolutely! Or a good film, more good music, good comics (though comics seem less popular nowadays).
All forms of media, every way of expressing yourself through should be encouraged. As widely as possible, as I would say it is nigh on impossible to day where the next popular thing will come from. :blush:

Huh. Good to know.

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It’s a pity more S4C stuff doesn’t stay online longer or get DVD releases in the fantasy genre I really enjoyed Gari Tryfan a Drych i’r Gorffenol a few Christmases ago.

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Fideo Wyth is good for gaming and scifantasy fantasy stuff, blog and YouTube channel.

I wonder how succesful Eniad Coll was - game was released bilinguals and is fairly cool

A piece of paper cannot speak or teach. Good enough for theory or passing theory-based exams, but fundamentally flawed when it comes to any acquiring any practical or vocational skill.

Wow, I stopped being a teacher a little while ago but it still shocks me that I can be so lucid and concise! :laughing:
Which as anyone who has met me knows, that’s the opposite of how I normally come across…:grimacing:

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The budget for Doctor Who was about three pence. Old pence, at that. So even S4C should be able to afford it!!

Yeah, I think this is a real weak point of theirs - they really ought to be able to get a decent print-on-demand partnership set up somewhere.

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Or just pay to download, surely? (not everything, you know what
I mean!
That’s how people rent/buy a lot of films nowadays, I presume it would come with a lower initial cost. Know nothing about it, though.

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I don’t know how much investment and maintenence would cost for a streaming site (Popeth Pedwar - they can have that one for free) would cost. Might never be recovered by sales at, say, a fiver a month.

Aye, no idea myself, not surprisingly as I’m ignorant on this.

But there seems to be an awful lot of amateurish rubbish on Amazon Prime and Netflix.

I mean, real “films” of just a few minutes of real amateurish home made stuff- if you search the site deep enough, as it were.

Maybe something like that could be used?
Now, I really have no idea what I am talking about!

[edit- not saying Welsh things are rubbish and amateurish, just that it seems there are an awful lot of things on there which presumably have very few sales! :blush:]

They could definitely be striking deals with major streaming providers as a starting point, but a pay-per-download model would cover the costs of bandwidth and maintenance - and they’ve got a Digital Fund for good projects, so they’d be able to dip into that for the initial build.

I can see an issue with using an established service, though. Not even token Welsh on the user interface. That would leave a bad taste for a lot of users. Having said that, it’s more likely that ‘casual’ viewers would find and watch S4C stuff if it was on Netflix of Amazon.

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Although there are precedents for government funding for translating stuff for obscenely wealthy tech platforms…

There is that, and I take your point.
But people are happy to use Welsh on Twitter rather than on Clecs, as it were.
The make up and demography of people into watching Welsh films might be different, though. Saying most of the people I know who would be interested in getting hold of Welsh films wouldn’t mind using Netflix or Amazon is using a highly unscientific sample, and I think you do have a point.
But if the costs were minimal, it could well few better than nothing, sort of.

(Hopes and crosses fingers. I’d use it! :blush:)

Hinterland was on Netflix, in an even more English version than normal, wasn’t it?

Maybe the attitude of keeping Welsh out if Netflux is actually counterproductive…

Yes. I think I probably agree that it would be better than nothing.