Finished 6-month course: summary and feedback

I finished the SSiW 6-month course a couple of weeks ago, and I wish to provide feedback, which is pretty much all positive…
Firstly, I may not have been a typical 6-monther. I had been learning Welsh, mainly with SSiW, for about two and a half years before deciding on the 6-month course. I had already completed the first two levels of challenges that make up the ‘lessons’ element of the 6-month course. But I felt that I needed a shot in the arm. I have a tendency to take things easy, and think I’m doing something great: which may in itself be true, but it also means that I’m greatly underachieving. I was also attracted to the idea of the weekly talks. I live in Israel where I know of no fellow Welsh speakers or learners, and lack of opportunities to talk has been my major obstacle. I had been practicing my listening skills firstly with the Level 1 exercises and then with the BBC Radio Cymru weekly Pigion (summary of broadcasted highlights).

So much for the introduction… How did I find the course? I’ll enumerate it for convenience.

  1. The two weekly challenges were irrelevant to me as I’d already done them. Instead, I spent the 6 months doing Old Course 3 and then Level 3, and several revisions of the Course 2 and Level 2 summary lessons, so I got my weekly 2 hours of learning and rather more. However, every week one has to confirm that one has done the scheduled learning for the outgoing week, which would have really kept me on my toes and is a very good idea.
  2. Listening exercises. We had to listen to the sped-up Level 2 listening exercises, which are harder than those of Level 1. Very good practice. We also had to advance to Welsh on the radio, which I keep up to this day.
  3. Early in the course we had to compose three short stories in Welsh and record them. What a confidence-booster for me. I couldn’t possibly have done this before I started the 6-month course.
  4. Weekly chats. At first, I joined the weekly group hangouts with @nia.llywelyn, but I felt that they were not really for me. As there are up to 9 learners in a chat, one ends up talking for no more than about 3-4 minutes per hourly session, and I didn’t feel that I was making much progress here. I must state that this is nothing to do with Nia, who is great! It’s just that the format didn’t suit me. A couple of months or so into the course I joined the Slack Welsh Speaking Practice workspace, where I usually choose a one-to-one conversation, and that’s where my talking started to take off.
  5. Constant confidence-boosters including the weekly newsletters from Iestyn. Guaranteed to make me feel good.
  6. Towards the end, we had to have an hour-long chat. Brilliant! Glory! At the very end we had to do one week speaking for an hour every day with someone, and in the last week have one two-hour conversation. I never achieved those due to lack of time, but I was certainly capable of doing so.

What has it done for my Welsh? It’s been a massive kick up the pen ol. I couldn’t have sustained a conversation for more than a few minutes before the course, and now my few hour-long one-on-one chats have been great and enjoyable. My listening has improved tremendously. My confidence has been the biggest winner.

Let’s be honest. I still have trouble understanding a lot, and my vocab is still very limited, but if you dumped me somewhere where only Welsh was possible, not only would I survive, but I wouldn’t even worry about it. I’d manage. It means that I now regard myself as an elementary Welsh speaker, which I would not have said before the course.

What would I like to see different? The possibility of taking a break for a couple of weeks or so - putting the course on hold. I ran out of time at the end and would have appreciated the possibility of finishing off at a less busy time for me. I’d also like more advertising the option of one-on-one chats. Other than that, maybe a bit of grammar here and there - as a means of explaining various things and not as a language cop.

It was a great experience. It’s not for you if you can’t devote the time for it. But if you can, it’s worth considering.

Diolch yn fawr iawn iawn i Aran ac Iestyn for this!

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Diolch, Baruch.

I’ve thought about doing this, but personal time constraints are currently an issue for me and, similar to you, no one within a short distance speaks Cymraeg. It’s good to know the 6 month course meets SSiW’s very high standards!

That’s impressive you took such a huge leap, learning a language knowing there a few to zero opportunities to use it in person. I’m seriously in awe of your fortitude to do that. Can I ask you a question? Now that you have this amazing level of confidence, how will you maintain this level?

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I remember you talking all day on Slack snd then chatting with me in the same evening!
Da iawn i ti

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I am currently taking a bit of a break from it (which means less chatting and listening) for the next 3 weeks or so. We’re going on holiday to Italy and I’m trying to learn some very basic Italian. Plus I’m a bit burned out from the 6-month course which was fantastic but VERY intense.
When we get back I intend trying to have more one-to-one chats via Slack or equivalent, hopefully at least twice a week for at least a few minutes, but preferably more than that. I also have to find a new job which takes time. I will want to start helping beginners on the forum who ask for speaking partners - although my Welsh isn’t yet great it’s not bad at all now. I want to increase my vocab with Memrise or something better. I have no intention of stopping.
Thanks very much for your kind words. And you are correct about time constraints. Maybe @aran there could be something similar to the 6-month course but for those who can’t find 4 hours per week for half a year? It may appeal to a lot of people.

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Diolch yn fawr iawn John!

That would be the 2 year course (shortly to be name-changed to ‘6 minutes a day’) :slight_smile:

And heard/noted on the pauses - we’ve been building the functionality for that, just need to put it in the control panel and/or flag it up more obviously if it’s already there… :slight_smile:

Diolch o galon am dy fewnbwn. Can’t believe after all that you’d describe yourself as an ‘elementary Welsh speaker’ - no-one else would… :wink:

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Thanks for the detailed report, @Baruch, it was very interesting. And of course, congratulations!

Very good idea (in my opinion). :clap:
When I had read “2 year course”, I had thought: “I would never be able to do that. There’s absolutely no way for me to keep my attention focused on studying Welsh for two full years” :scream:
Now I read “6 minutes a day”, I thought: “Oh this sounds like one of the few courses I would surely be able to do”. :joy:
Power of words.:sunglasses:

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Diolch yn fawr iawn Aran - just as “fluency” has been rightly described on the Forum as a very subjective word, I suppose that so is “elementary”… :slight_smile:

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