I’m struggling with to tell in this challenge. It seems that’s dweud and orth I ( sorry about spelling) can be separated by other bits of the sentence and I just don’t seem to be able to get my head round it. It’s caused me to come to a stop and because it features it challenge 14 I can’t move on. Any suggestions?
I think the general advice is likely to be “Don’t worry about it, and carry on”. You shouldn’t halt your progress just because you perceive one pattern to be causing you issues. Think of how much other new stuff you’re going to learning if you just push on, and you’ll keep hearing things you’ve had issues with as you go through, giving you more examples to assimilate.
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Hi Theresa - Challenge 13, eh? You’re doing well!
I’m looking forward to a good chat next time I bump into you!
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Helo! I was also tripped up (and still sometimes am) by word placement for ‘to tell’. Because I was getting very frustrated, which never helps, I took a breather for a couple days and listened to the accelerated listening exercises for 10 & 15 over and over. When I came back to 14, it was as if it had sunk in. I still miss it sometimes, but I should be understood out in the wild (and I suspect it’s not a hard-and-fast rule anyway…?).
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Shwmae Theresa.
As you will know, we use “dweud” to mean “to say”, and now we add “wrth” to Dweud to mean “to tell” - “dweud wrth”.
Then, if we project that onto someone, say, “to tell me”, that becomes “dweud wrtha i”, “to tell you” becomes “dweud wrthot ti” or “dweud wrthoch chi”, and so on…
But, if we’re going to “tell you something”, that becomes “dweud rhywbeth wrthot ti” or “dweud rhywbeth wrthoch chi”. The word “rhywbeth” squeezes itself inbetween “dweud” and “wrth” when you’re telling “something” to someone!
I am only guessing that this is what is throwing you off a little…
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This took me a long time to improve on: I just battled on with saying - dweud i mi, dweud i ti… Which is how I automatically replied. I was aware of it though and I’ve gradually improved. Still not perfect every time though.
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So it becomes tell something to you rather than tell you something? I may have it in my head but need to do lesson to see. Thank you
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Just have to see if I have the vocabulary, but look forward to the opportunity 
Yeahhhhh! Success I think I got the challenge done sufficiently to move onto challenge 14 where I can get confused on how to say my brother and my sister lol
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Last night I decided to adopt the no repetition approach. This morning I listened to challenge 13 for the first time. Ouch!
Don’t let it break you! Press on! It’ll still be there if you need to come back to it later - but having a quick romp through to 25 will show you all sorts of interesting things about how consolidation works for you 
Diolch yn fawr iawn, Aran!
Just after I posted the above I ran through challenge 14. My head was really spinning when I got to work! Just been for a lunchtime walk and listened to number 15 and I was surprised how much I had retained from this morning. Struggling with some bits, naturally, but I do feel like they will bed in eventually.
It’s reminded me that I struggled with he/she needs to in the old course one but perservered and eventually just stopped getting it wrong.
Nowadays I tend to jot down (phonetically!) the new words and patterns I’ve learnt from memory and I find this also helps me retain the Cymraeg, not that I refer back to the notes very much.
Definitely committed to the no repetition method for the rest of the course now!
Good man! I honestly think you’ll find it transformational - by the time you’ve got to 25, do one quick revisit of 15, and I think you’ll be really startled by how much easier it will feel
And when you don’t get stuck in a circle of repeating sessions, you can get so much further in the same time 
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I like to think about dweud as “to say” and wrth as “to”. This probably isn’t grammtically correct, but it seems to work for me. In my mind, “Tell you something” = “to say something to you” = “Dweud rhwybeth wrthot ti”
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