Iâm doing Northern, but here are my answers to your questions!
He - e (o in the North)
She - hi
He would - bydda fe (bydda fo in the North)
She would - bydda hi
Old Man - hen ddyn [softening after the word hen, thus dyn -> ddyn]
Young Woman - menyw ifanc (dynnes ifanc in the North)
Sheâd better - well iddi hi
Heâd better - well iddo fe (well iddo fo in the North)
Not to tread on Stuâs toes but just to give you a few pointers from a Iestynâs lessons, or Southern perspective
âHeâ is âeâ or âfeâ.
âHe wouldâ you may see written in its âfullâ form as âbyddai feâ. [I point that out because you said you were interested in seeing how it was written.]
You will normally hear it pronounced as âbydde feâ, and it is often/usually spelled that way.
Similarly, [byddai hi], âbydde hiâ.
âWell iddi hiâ is âsheâd betterâ, but (perhaps including a a tendency to drop the âhâ and all that) it often just merges into âwell iddiâ.
I am really struggling to get my head round he and she, where the words change slightly to indicate who is doing something. eg he/she wanted he/sheâd better etc
I donât seem to be able to hear the pronunciation well enough, the written help that Iâve been given didnât help and as a result the words arenât staying in my head.
Any advice and assistance would be appreciated as I had been doing so well until I got to Challenge 12.
The main words you need for he and she are fe and hi (hee). Confusingly for some, ok, many, hi = she and fe = he.
So you have ma fe (mar vair, but don;t sound the r) and ma he (mar hee).
Bydde fe (BUTH-air vair) - he would and bydde hi (BUTH-air hee)
It may be confusing you a touch that fe turns to e in some situations, so Oâdd e (or-th air) - he was and oâdd hi )or-th hee) she was.
Does that help at all?
(Please remember that if your pronunciation of the vowel sounds is different to what Iâve written above, stick with what youâre hearing, not what you think I might mean by my sort-of phoneticsâŚ)
Not sure, if I am posting in the right place with this question - but my questions are similar and related to 12 and mostly 13.
I found that after the exhilaration of moving pretty quickly through 10,11,12 and being really pleased with the accumulation of so much complexity, learning in phrase groups, long sentences etc. etc, I crashed and almost burned in Challenge 13.
There just seemed to be so many new things and although it is a bit exciting to be asked to be creative instead of just repeating like a parrot, there were a few places where I needed to know what something looked like to be able to make a new construction. That is, you may know what the âheâ construction might be but then got asked for a âsheâ construction that you hadnât heard before. It wasnât exactly that example but something similar. It was great when you managed it, but very discouraging when you didnât and it impacted on what came next. Basically, the things that I thought would help if I had a written version were:
heâd like to
she wanted
sheâd better
I met
someone
last night
your sister
works with
to tell you
to tell me what to do
âŚand basically how these sentences start off e.g. he met someone last night who
âŚand thank you for replies above. My Achilles heel at the moment is DD, so the info about bydda and iddo iddi is a great help. Oedd is a new thing for me to add to that bag of rascals:smile
Just having ago at this for myself to be honest. Donât take it all as correctâŚ
heâd like to - hoffai fe/licai fo
she wanted - wnaeth hi isio/moyn⌠oâdd hi isio/moyn
sheâd better - (mae) well i hi
I met - wnes i cyfarfod⌠on iân cyfarfod
someone - rhywun
last night - neithiwr
your sister - dy chwaer di/eich chwaer chi
works with - yn gweithio gyda/efo
to tell you - i ddweud wrthoch chi
to tell me what to do - i ddweud wrth i beth iâw wneud
This kind of thing becomes gradually more common as we get further through the course, and as you have a broader range of language to choose from - but donât worry about it, because even if you donât get many of them right first time up, being exposed to the new variations is going to help your brain make the connections - and eventually, they will fall into place for you
So the key message here is: be of good heart, and donât feel you need to re-do 13 just yet! Carry on for a few more sessions and see how it feels then
Thank you very much. That makes a huge difference. I donât need to commit them to memory like old style vocab learning but just have a general idea from sighting the words gives me confidence that I am saying the right thing and helps me retrieve them each new time that theyâre required.
Yeah!!! I think I have mainly got the idea of this now. Just need to get it all fixed in my memory totally also need to remember the slight alterations that The old woman, makes to something that has been she, etc
Sounds to me like youâre both doing well! Itâs great when people come on saying âthis is confusing me a bitâ, and when we say âThatâs all right, youâre supposed to be confusedâ, you reply âOK, great, weâll just get on with it thenâŚ!â It makes me pretty sure that you are rapidly becoming confident Welsh speakers! Da iawn to both of you